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Lead Technique - scales and modes question

AzSkye - Aug 23, 2006 - 02:16 AM
Post subject: scales and modes question


I am hopeing this is the right forum.
Learning the Pentatonic scales.Starting with G next is A# then comes C is this correct? And I know to move up 5 frets to get the next mode .But where is the starting point at which to move up 5 frets?
Please a tad bit away from understanding this.
Skye

rwmcjazz - Aug 23, 2006 - 05:00 PM
Post subject: Re: scales and modes question
the answer to your question is quite straight forward provided you understand how to play through the 5 note penta tonic scale from your 6th string across to the 4th string. Playing beyond that is repeating the pitches. Then it's simply a matter of playing those same pitches entirely up the neck on your 6th string. Where these pitches land as you go up the 6th string - will mark where your next inversion of the scale begins.

If you start a C pentatonic scale at the 8th fret(6th string) you will have to go back down the neck for the f,g and Bb as you will be too high on the neck to play across. Doesn't mean you can't - just that those scale inversions will be way up in the 11,15,18 and 20th fret. The 11th fret pattern will be fine, but unless you have very small hands; playing with any sense of purpose will be challenging at the higher locations.
AzSkye - Aug 24, 2006 - 01:06 AM
Post subject: RE: Re: scales and modes question
Thanks for the reply JAzz, I didn't make myself clear I am afraid.I do not understand 1st-If I am Playing a C maj scale.What defines that the scale is a C and the next scale..where rather what note do I count up 5 spaces? There are 2 C's in the 1st 5 frets..which C do I start from.I guess that better represents what I am trying to figure out.
rwmcjazz - Aug 24, 2006 - 10:40 AM
Post subject: RE: Re: scales and modes question
Sorry about that Skye.. maybe this site will help you with your question http://www.jazclass.aust.com/scales/scamip.htm good luck
Jack_GVR - Sep 23, 2006 - 08:14 PM
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Hey AzSkye, how's it going with the pentatonic scales?
Here are two simple patterns that might be useful to you:
E Minor Pentatonic in first position:
(this is also G Major pentatonic)

--------------------------0-3----------------
---------------------0-3---------------------
----------------0-2--------------------------
-----------0-2-------------------------------
------0-2------------------------------------
-0-3-----------------------------------------

A Minor Pentatonic in first position:
(this is also C Major pentatonic)

--------------------------0-3-5--------------
---------------------1-3---------------------
----------------0-2--------------------------
-----------0-2-------------------------------
------0-3------------------------------------
-0-3-----------------------------------------

Once you get what these sound like you can move
them up the neck easily enough.

Here is a universal type pentatonic pattern:
This is a C Major pentatonic. What makes it universal
is that it has three notes on one string and 2 notes
on the next in a regular pattern. The first of the 3-note
group is the root of the major scale (in this case C).
The second of the 2-note group is the root of the minor
scale (in this case A.)

---------------------------------8-10-12--------
---------------------------8-10---------------
--------------------5-7-9---------------------
---------------5-7---------------------------
--------3-5-7---------------------------------
-------------------------------------------

Here is the G Major / E Minor version:

--------------------------------------10-12----
----------------------------8-10-12-------------
-----------------------7-9-------------------
----------------5-7-9-------------------------
-----------5-7-------------------------------
-0-3-5-7---------------------------------------

Hope this helps!
Jack from Guitar Vacation Retreats
Eck - Oct 04, 2006 - 09:41 AM
Post subject: master scale
I've been told by a master guitarist that there is a scale that uses most of the notes all over the guitar.I'm sure he said it was called the incen scale(not sure if right spelling) Does anyone know this scale?
Jack_GVR - Dec 26, 2006 - 12:22 AM
Post subject: Re: master scale
Eck wrote:
I've been told by a master guitarist that there is a scale that uses most of the notes all over the guitar.I'm sure he said it was called the incen scale(not sure if right spelling) Does anyone know this scale?


Hey Eck, Sorry nobody's been polite enough to reply to this question. merry Xmas anyway!

The name "incen" scale really doesn't ring a bell. You either mis-understood your source or he has a special name for something that the rest of us don't know. Good luck!

But from a practical standpoint, the two very most useful scales are the Major and the Harmonic Minor - to be learned and played in 12 keys each. Pentatonic scales are also useful...

all the best - Jack
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