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Post subject: question  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2004 - 01:47 AM



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If you were to first get taught scales what would you learn first and are there any good websites for it.
 
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I think there is a danger in learning pentatonic stuff first. Granted, it is what everybody does, but I think there is a tendency to learn the pentatonic, then realize, "Hey, I can sound like most people I hear on the radio now", and to then just stick with that, not realizing that the diatonic scales (i.e. major, minor, mixolydian, etc) open up a whole new world.

So I would learn the major scales first, and then learn the pentatonic stuff, at which point you will appreciate that the pentatonic scale is simply a subset of the major scale, and you will furthermore be able to merge the two worlds (not sure what your influences are, but players like Satriani and Vai always merge pentatonic and major scales in their playing).

As far as good sites to learn from... Perhaps I am biased, but I would say you have already found a pretty damn good one Smile. If you want to learn more about the theory of scales and modes, then I would just get a book that you can mark up with a pen instead of viewing everything on a computer screen.


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Post subject: Re: question  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2004 - 04:39 PM



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westymatt wrote:
If you were to first get taught scales what would you learn first and are there any good websites for it.

I got taught A minor first. But, the major and minor scales and minor pentatonic would be a good place to start. And, this site's as good as any Wink

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 11, 2004 - 06:09 PM



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i learned the pentatonics and i look at the diatonic g major scale on the lessons and release it is completely different than me just putting the majors scale to the key of g
 
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If you learn G Minor Pentatonic (minor pentatonic is the shape that most people know), then it will not go with the G Major and its modes. The best way to blend pentatonic and major modes is as follows: Realize that in any Major key, the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th notes correspond to minor triads and minor 7th chords. If you play a minor pentatonic at any of those notes, it will be in key. So in G Major, A, B, and E Minor Pentatonic are all in key (i.e. the 5 notes in each of those Pentatonic scales are a subset of the 7 notes of the G Major scale).

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 14, 2004 - 08:24 PM



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thank you i am kinda understanding but am still confused with modes and kinda understanding scales
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 15, 2004 - 12:53 PM



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wow you are a phenonmenal guitar player i am very impressed i am glad i am doing your exercise your solos in medolic concepts are very impressive how long have you been playing.
 
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